The Race vs. Ethnicity Debate, and Resisting the Urge to Define Others

“But you don’t really look Hispanic.” – This is a comment I would hear all the time growing up.  And it didn’t stop when I was an adult either.  I’ve heard it from colleagues in graduate school, from strangers, and I even heard it from a friend’s husband just a couple of months ago.  When people say this type of comment to me, I try to understand the context of where it is coming from (usually after I spend un poquito amount of time stewing about it).  I look at myself in the mirror every day, and I still can’t figure out what the mystery is.  These words are almost always said by a White American of European ancestry - usually, someone whose family has lived/occupied the U.S. for many generations.  As a psychologist, I’ve learned through studying emotions and behavior that people generally have discomfort with ambiguity.  In the United States, there’s a historical context of White people being at the center of “cultural and social norms”, even though this is rarely the case in reality, and even though there is evidence to suggest otherwise.  People tend to feel safer knowing they are surrounded with people who mirror them and are like-minded; people who understand them.  It also saves them the discomfort of having to look outside of themselves and potentially face the fact that they do not fully understand something about me, something that they believe they should know.   After all, how can I really be Latina if I just went out for bagels and lox?  (Stereotypes are still a real thing, FYI).  This type of cognitive short-cut certainly does not only exist for White Americans, however, the need to have a clear answer to the “race question” seems to be fueled by fear and intergenerational patterns of racial oppression in this country.  Despite my understanding some of why this happens, it does continue to sting every time.  Like many BIPOC individuals, I’m then faced with deciding whether I should educate this person or not.  It’s a constant internal debate.

One of the biggest areas of confusion that exists when it comes to culture is differentiating the concepts of “race” and “ethnicity”.  While social scientists know that both race and ethnicity are social constructs (which I agree with), these concepts are still essential for understanding a person’s individual, family, and social context, and important for how people define themselves.  These identifiers also continue to have definitions imposed upon them by other groups; it can be a challenge for to fully define oneself and have others respect your own definition. Given this, let’s clarify what we mean when we talk about race and ethnicity:

Race can loosely be defined as physical and biological differences that groups and cultures consider to be socially significant.  This can include skin color, facial features, hair, and other attributes.  Ethnicity on the other hand has a broader context and is more about a person’s cultural expression and their place/country of origin (either by birth or by lineage), which includes (but is not limited to) language, mannerisms, food, dress, music, and in some places, includes cultural practices such as religion.

Because I cannot speak personally about any group’s experience other than my own, I think it’s important to highlight how the concepts of Race and Ethnicity can be regularly misunderstood in the U.S.  There’s a large portion of people that believe that there is a Latinx or Hispanic racial group.  I want to dispel this myth - there is not.  Throughout the U.S., Mexico, Central America, South America, and the entire rest of the world, Latinx and Hispanic people exist and regularly identify within many different racial groups.  I personally can identify my racial groups as White, Black, and Native South American.  I was born in the United States, although my father was born in South America.  This makes me a multiracial person with Ethnic heritage that is European and South American.  Many Latinx and Hispanic people throughout the world typically identify as multiracial, given the historical context of their countries of origin and colonialism.  Most people from Venezuela identify as mixed race, which is where my father is from.  There are also people that are fully Latinx or Hispanic that are not mixed race.  Race means something different in each country and on each continent.  In the U.S. because Latinx and Hispanic people sometimes share a language (of course they don’t share the exact same language, but it can seem that way when “Spanish” is referenced), ethnic groups are often lumped together as a racial group.  Also, many Latinx and Hispanic people don’t speak Spanish, however, this does not actually change their race or their ethnicity.  Coupled with the fact that many U.S. Census forms focus on all people living in the U.S. as being “Hispanic” or “Non-Hispanic” in Ethnicity, there can be a lot of confusion about what all this means.

Given the massive amounts of misinformation out there, here’s how you can best support your partner(s), friends, family members, coworkers, and others in your community.  It’s crucial to allow people to define themselves and their own identities without questioning it.  It’s time to let go of the fears of the unknown and allow people their own experiences.  Trying to figure out someone’s background by looking at them or defining who they must be based on very limited information you have, ends up invalidating that person.  Some people might brush it off, and for others it may have a lasting impact.  It is easy to make assumptions about people based on categories; in some ways it’s how our brains were trained to learn about the world around us.  It maybe even feels safer to do this, because it can feel terrible inside when you don’t know something that you think you “should have known” or have made a mistake, however, what’s worse is when your self-protective instincts end up hurting those around you.  It can take more effort and courage to be curious and to allow space for things we don’t know.  Educating ourselves, owning our mistakes, and having compassion for ourselves and others when we do mess up is how we can best deal with ambiguity, and how we can be the best versions of ourselves.

As a therapist, I work with a range of LGBTQ BIPOC who have also shared similar stories and experiences of navigating identity politics. Research in these areas, for example, the Racial Identity Development models or the Sexual Orientation Identity Development models, usually prescribe stages and linear progression in their approaches. However, identity development can be nonlinear, and there is a need for using an integrative approach to work with LGBTQ populations, especially with BIPOC communities.  There are also unique challenges when it comes to finding support from the extended family, folk healers, religious institutions, merchant groups, or social clubs. There can be significant barriers affecting LBGTQ BIPOC, such as: 

  • Racial/ethnic discrimination and oppression 

  • Sexual discrimination and oppression from the larger heterosexual society

  • Discrimination within racial/ethnic community for being LGBTQ 

  • Discrimination and rejection by the LGBTQ community 

  • Multiple minority status requiring assimilation into many different cultures 

  • Limited social support 

  • Few resources and limited access to resources 

  • Lack of healthy role models 

These can have a profound impact on a person’s mental health, and can contribute to anxiety, depression, feelings of loneliness and isolation, and even suicidal ideation. My own identity/personality/ethnic development has fluctuated between the powerless/stigmatized and powerful/dominant groups due to extensive travel and ensuing immersion from a very young age. So when I work with my clients, it’s imperative that I become familiar with cultural values and factors that affect their process of identity development. My awareness of the process of cultural identity formation as well as other aspects of identity formation has helped improve my ability to assist clients in navigating this intersection. Furthermore, I encourage psychology student and clinicians to become skillful in eliciting from clients the cultural values that cause them difficulties functioning within many diverse and contradicting value systems and cultures. These cultural values in turn can be reframed into positive strengths and resources. 

Some of the richest conversations I have had with clients have touched on both the challenges and opportunities that come from multiple minority statuses. From the Latina client in a wheel-chair to the Asian trans adolescent, I have found value in understanding the context from where my clients are coming from, what statuses are visible (i.e. physical disability and race) versus invisible (i.e. sexual orientation,  neurodiversity, or at times, social economic status), and how clients can shift in the fabric of society based on these identities. While some other nations are making strides towards equality and justice, here in America we have a long way to go to dismantle systemic oppression and create a fair and equitable society that allows all people to have access to shared resources and opportunities and not be quickly judged based on how they present. 


Dr. Amanda Rios

Dr. Rios is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist and Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in the state of Illinois who specializes in individual, couples and family therapy with children, adolescents, and adults of diverse backgrounds.  She received her Bachelor's degree in Psychology and Sociology from the University of Maryland, College Park.  She received her Doctorate degree in Clinical Psychology the Illinois School of Professional Psychology in Chicago, Illinois where she concentrated her studies on a family systems approach to treatment.  She offers therapy, guest speaking, consultation, and clinical supervision services. Dr. Rios is trained as a Divorce Mediator and offers mediation services separate from her clinical work. Dr Rios co-founded CORE in 2012 with Dr. Khalid.

Her experiences in working with clients have included settings such as university counseling centers, elementary and high schools, community mental health agencies, and psychiatric hospitals.  Dr. Rios enjoys working with a broad spectrum of clients and enjoys learning and understanding the unique elements that all of her clients bring with them in therapy.  She has experiences and interests in working with clients with a range of presenting problems including those who have experienced depression, anxiety, trauma, school problems, and relationship difficulties.  Dr. Rios values her relationships with her clients and sees the therapy relationship as one of mutual respect and trust.

In addition to her work at CORE, Dr. Rios has served as an Adjunct Professor at The Chicago School of Professional Psychology and at Illinois School of Professional Psychology, where she has taught a wide variety of subject matter including therapy and assessment techniques, child and adolescent development, and topics related to diversity to both graduate and undergraduate students.

Dr. Rios is an active member of the following Professional Organizations:

  • American Psychological Association

  • Illinois Psychological Association

  • American Association for Marriage & Family Therapy

  • Association of Family and Conciliation Courts

  • Association for Conflict Resolution

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